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There are just so many variables to consider, such as strength, toughness, corrosion and wear-resistance, and the ability to take an edge- to be sharpened. CPM-20CV VS 154CM. Thanks in advance. Hinderer’s XM-18 slipjoint gets a new review by Dan at BladeReviews. Paid Subscribers don't see ads! Both S30V and S35VN steel are made with the same carbon and chrome content, and from various tests, both steels provide the same edge retention and corrosion resistance. Free. Due to the fact that Spyderco runs "constant quality improvement", or CQI, this one not only outshines my previous Yojimbo 2 but all the knives in my collection. Free. [Help] S30V vs 20CV? Benchmade CPM-20CV vs S90V Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by KingZee, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:43 PM. 20CV has five times the wear resistance of 440C, and has 30% more corrosion resistance. M390 vs 20CV vs 204P – 3rd Generation Powder Metallurgy Technology? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. ADD. I have someone sharpen my knives, so Idk if that matters. Perhaps B-U's 3rd generation micro clean powder may be finer grain allowing M390 to be easier to sharpen. Favorite. hide. EchoDeltaCharlie Loaded Pockets. CPM-3V vs CPM-20CV. Alex … Quality. ELMAX VS S90V. S90v vs CPM 20cv? I am making considerations for the steel M390 by Bohler which is essentially CPM20CV but made differently. Second, buying this knife is a no brainer. As you’d expect the carbon content is very high but the secret here is the extreme quantities of vanadium, almost three times that found in Elmax or S30V. Please weigh in and tell me your thoughts, and let the power of this awesome community debate. This is a rounded cutout in the base of the blade behind the ricasso (or the start of the sharpened edge) that allows you place your forefinger further forward when gripping the knife. Buy SPYDERCO SP85CF20CVP2 for $227.47 with free shipping - Spyderco Yojimbo 2 Folding Knife 3.125 inch CPM-20CV Satin Plain Blade, Carbon Fiber Handles at KnifeCenter CPM 20CV 154CM; EDGE RETENTION: 8/10: 4/10: EASE OF SHARPNESS: 5/10: 5/10: CORROSION RESISTANCE: 8/10: 6/10: TOUGHNESS: 6/10: 5/10: 154CM has lower edge retention, lower toughness, and lower corrosion resistance compared to CPM 20CV. 440C has a cutting edge retention score of 100 on the CATRA test, while 20CV has a score of 180. Both of these steels are a real bear to sharpen up! My main concern with this is the carbide volume which causes issues for edge strength/overall sharpness and stability at low DPS. Once I slowed down and made absolutely SURE I was forming a burr on both sides, I found CPM-20CV to be pretty straightforward to sharpen compared to, say, S90V or ZDP-189, in that it responds well to low grit diamond stones in initial phases of sharpening. That is just slightly harder, and has the same toughness as 440C, which is a benchmark steel for knives. Regards, Chadd Chadd Smith, Jun 13, 2016 #1. Disadvantages: Very difficult to sharpen. save. Independent knife reviews. $140.25 Save 15% . Why a CPM -20CV Knife Blade Is an Excellent Choice. Who uses it: Benchmade. M390 / CPM 20CV is a PM stainless steel that offers good wear resistance with excellent corrosion resistance through … J = CPM S90V; K = CPM S35VN; L = CPM 20CV; M = CTX-XHP; N = ELMAX; O = CPM 110V; P = 14C28N; Q = M390; R = N680; S = CPM S30V; T = H1; U = 13C26; V = D2; W = CPM M4; X = CTS-BD1; Y = ZDP-189; Uses. Amazon.com : Zero Tolerance 0562CF Hinderer Slicer Folding Knife; 3.5” CPM-20CV Stonewashed and Satin Steel Blade, Carbon Fiber Front Handle, KVT Ball-Bearing Opening, Frame Lock and Reversible Pocketclip; 5.5 OZ, Black : Garden & Outdoor Value. I … What it is: CPM S90V is a "Crucible Particle Metallurgy" stainless steel, widely regarded as a "super steel" for its properties and performance. Within BKC, comparing M390 vs. S90V researched data also backs up my personal experience with opinions of Rev and elkins. spudley112. Dan […] This really is gem, especially for the price. The patent for S90V was filed in 1995 [2]. 20cv steel with smooth black G10 vs peel ply s30v for the same price.. Choosing the best steel for your everyday carry knife or another blade that you'll be relying on for a specific task can require some research. Thanks to Josh Warren and Alex K for becoming Knife Steel Nerds Patreon supporters! ELMAX Steel in Knives LionSteel TS-1 KnifeChoosing the right steel for a knife is not an easy thing to do. Forward choils vs cutting edge length – Something you’ll see referenced frequently in our reviews are forward choils, also referred to as 50/50 choils – as opposed to a sharpening choil. Close. But I have heard a lot of horror … This thread is archived. Edge retention testing is continuing, we have now tested 18 different steels, and four of those steels with multiple heat treatments. Like S90V, it’s a high-hardness steel, but it’s more balanced than S90V. I will be purchasing a knife from Survive knives. The thing is I own the Yojimbo 2 trainer and had the old sprint run in s90v and Carbon fiber. CPM-S110V exhibits many of the same qualities as S90V. I review all the best pocket knives and folding knives. Comparing: CPM S35VN vs. CPM 20CV. AS all you steel aficionados knows Vanadium carbide is small and very hard. Benchmade Mini Freek Folding Knife 3" S90V Satin Plain Blade, Car… $310.00. The Smock is an excellent daily driver, you wont be disappointed . CPM S90V. Slipjoints are a classic design that function simply and have a feeling that is a bit different than your typical locking folder. By Larry Connelley | 2019. ADD. I'm trying to decide on a steel for an EDC Mini Griptilian and if someone could break down the strengths and weaknesses of these steels in comparison along with an opinion on which is better, that would be great. Conclusion . COPYRIGHT© 2011 by Latrobe Specialty Steel Co. 01/11 CPM® 20CV Powder Metal Stainless Tool Steel Typical Composition C Mn Si Cr W Mo V 1.90 0.30 0.30 20.00 0.60 1.00 4.00 CPM 20CV is a highly wear resistant, powder metallurgy stainless tool steel.The steel contains a large Come to Patreon if you want updates on testing as it is completed. First time posting here so be gentle. Hello all! M390 / CPM 20CV Stainless Steel Data Sheet. $263.50 Save 15% . The Rockwell hardness of CPM 20CV is 59 – 61 HRC. 100% Upvoted. Issue #1 Carbon 1.9% Chromium 20.0% Vanadium 4.0% Molybdenum 1.0% Tungsten 0.6% Density: 0.275 lb/in3 (7616 kg/m3) Modulus of Elasticity: 31x106 psi (214 GPa) Machinability: 35-40% of a 1% carbon steel Coefficient of Thermal Expansion: Spyderco's Mule Team Series takes this concept a step further by offering our customers the same fixed-blade knife pattern in many different steel variations, allowing steel-obsessed knife enthusiasts a unique opportunity to test and evaluate different steels using the same identical design platform. Archived. Posted by 4 years ago. Advantages: Wear resistance, corrosion resistance. Benchmade Presidio AUTO Folding Knife 3.72" Black S30V Drop Point… $290.00. … The Bark River Super Chef's has a 10 inch blade that is shaped for both slicing and dicing. Comparison. S90V has more carbon and more than double in Vanadium content. I'm trying to decide between a Benchmade 940-1 and a 940-1501. Benchmade 154CM vs S30V vs CPM20CV 543. Crucible’s CPM S90V steel approaches the very pinnacle of wear resistance and edge retention. ADD. In Stock. Cru-Wear. report . 5 /5. ELMAX S90V; EDGE RETENTION: 8/10: 8/10: EASE OF SHARPNESS: 5/10: 3/10: CORROSION RESISTANCE: 8/10: 6/10: TOUGHNESS: 6/10: 3/10: Elmax offers better toughness, and it’s a bit easier to sharpen compared to the S90V. Conclusion. Hinderer’s Slippy XM-18 is a fantastic example of old tech in new form with high end steel and precision build quality. Note. S90v vs CPM 20cv? Bark River Knives: Super Chef's Knife - CPM 20CV. Elmax. But I am having a hard time choosing which steel I want. If price wasn't a factor what would be a better steel? By Larry Connelley When looking at quality American-made knives, you'll notice that S35VN and S30V steel are two of the more popular steels for knife blades. Quality. In Stock. Pros and cons of both? Just had a quick question regarding S90v and CPM 20cv steel. Sometimes referred to as the crucible stainless steel, 154CM is one of the newer stainless steels on the market. Joined: Oct 26, 2013 Messages: 15 Likes Received: 38. Hero Member Posts: 910 Did you know Uranus has 22 moons?!? When a knife maker plans a new design, the selection of blade steel makes a critical contribution to the success or failure of the product. Dont sleep on this one. share. I know that the cpm 3v has a really high toughness and wear resistance. March 30, 2020 Larrin. $246.50 Save 15% . If you frequently use your knife to slice up cardboard, there may not be a better steel than CPM-S110V. Powder … Favorite. The Benchmade 940 is a highly regarded EDC knife and some would say it's a good defensive knife. Benchmade 154CM vs S30V vs CPM20CV … Featuring an ergonomic handle shape that is comfortable to use and plenty long for a generous grasp. Benchmade Presidio II Folding Knife 3.72" S30V Satin Plain Blade,… $165.00. That reduction in Cr led to S90V stainless steel which has 14% Cr and 9% V. The steel was found to have a good combination of toughness, corrosion resistance, and very high wear resistance. In the knife industry a 'mule' is a sample knife used for performance testing. The primary difference is out-of-this-world edge retention at the cost of a minimal reduction in toughness. 3V 8 vote(s) 47.1% 20CV 12 vote(s) 70.6% Multiple votes are allowed. 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