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Recoil was one of my concerns. I have a JM marked 1895G in .45-70, what's so special about it? My SKS 20in and I love that gun, so I'm probably going to shoot for the 20in. Typical weighs around 170, Thanks. bore magnums. It's way too much gun for pretty much anything but bear or moose. Both will do really well in North American game situations. Today on Kentucky Ballistics we have 500 S&W Magnum vs 45-70 vs 450 Marlin! I am planning on using the gun mainly for hiking, fishing protection but I might use it for hunting in the future. for deer sized game probably 250 or so. I just sold a rifle with the hopes of finding a 38-55. I've been wanting one for a while, but like an idiot, I stopped by the local gun shop and they had a beautiful 26" Winchester in 30-30 ($700), which made me want it too. The .45-70 really shines if you take up handloading. There is a gun show here locally this Saturday. Anyways... 30-30 is classic and has more options. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .300 Winchester Magnum vs .45-70 Government ammo rounds. I put a Williams peep sight on it and can constantly hit a 2ftx2ft steel ram at 300 yards. You didn't mention where you live, so I'll just caution you to check your local regulations to ensure whatever you want to hunt with is legal in your area. On the other hand, the.45-70 leaves the muzzle with an energy of 2,280 ft-lbs and, after 200 yards, strikes a target with 1,305 ft-lbs. I'm personally a fan of bigger booms but there's nothing wrong with the .30-30. The 45-70, while cool, is a lot of gun for that application. It also got me into reloading, which is common because of the cost of rounds, and I like reloading too. The 45-70 is a favorite of mine and I hunt with it also, I own 30-30's but cannot use them for deer in OH. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .30-30 Winchester vs .45-70 Government ammo rounds. I … If you go with .45-70, get a heavier gun with a longer barrel. Press J to jump to the feed. 30-30 can be shot by anyone, travels 2500 feet nicely. If you really want to be retro sexy, check out the 26" Octagonal barrel cowboy edition. They’re handy to carry. When I saw the headline, I thought Henry had introduced something brand new. Here are how the .30/30, .45/70, and .300 Savage stack up against one another. Each cartridge uses different diameter bullets:.308″ for the.30-30 cartridge and.458″ for the 45-70. Starting this season until 2020 when it comes up for revote. Why the .30-30 is Still Great for Hunting. The transition guns though... ugg. Both are great, some nutty and out there loads for 45-70 but 3030 is cheaper. The lever gun was invented for simplicity sake. Recoil isn't a big problem, as I own a couple of old mausers. It jammed twice I think, but just had to put a bit more force behind the lever to get it to eject, but should get easier after using it more. I just picked up a Marlin in 30-30 and took it to the range last weekend, I'm in love. One of the original chamberings for this gun was in .45/70. I just like my 45-70 lol. I bought a Marlin 336 (.30-30) in 1979. Jedman. But you can make it even more effective if you exercise two tricks that extend its reach. In … I think I put about 50 rounds through it. Oct 16, 2009. 45-70 is great in a heavy gun, but in that light Marlin Guide gun, it will hammer you. Ghost ring sights, mounted on the receiver as close to the eye as you can manage, work very well in this platform. These are well fitted and finished rifles. but there's a HUGE range of power that can be used especially if you load your own. With a total cartridge length of 2.55 inches, the .45-70 round has a projectile that’s .458 inches in diameter. Plus, I hunt in the southeast, so 30-30 will handle anything I'm trying to kill and anything trying to kill me and not break my shoulder in the process. Lever-Action Rifles. The ammo is a lot more expensive (2-3x as much as .30-30 to start) and harder to find. Get the one you like most, they are both great classic cartridges that wount be going extinct any time soon. The Marlin 336 is a great platform for the .30-30 and I wish my .30-30 was one. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. It's … Somewhere in the back of my safe is a 30-30 lever gun that's unfired! I would recommend one of the longer barrel versions if you aren't going to be carrying it around a lot. I checked to make sure, and yes, you can hunt whitetail in Missouri with a .30-30. Don't believe the "rainbow trajectory" comments. Learn more about Redditâs use of cookies. Federal’s Power-Shok ammo line is available in 150-grain JSP.30-30 Winchesters and 300-grain JSP.45-70 rounds. It will not be intolerable by any means though - should be quite a bit less than your mausers. If it is just to have a longarm to go with your 45 Colt, you might want to consider a 45 Colt levergun. It is a fantastic gun and I will never get rid of it. For a 336 in .30-30 there is pretty much one universal gun with a few options such as what type of wood the stock is made from, the checkering pattern and if they spay painted the trigger gold. Really enjoyable shooting it. You will not regret your purchase, OP. Seems like most are OK, but you still get some lemons... and the lemons are abysmal. I think the 45-70 is a great round as well, but it just depends on whether or not you want to pay extra for the larger size. Am I correct in assuming that, given the velocity loss and resultant trajectory arc … Bad ass actually. The 308 autoloader is much easier to get (swift, up close) repeat hits with, vs the 45-70 lever action. Winchester 94 has more historical relevance but IMO is also the inferior rifle. Have you considered a lever .357 or .44? The .30-30 from 50 yards. I have a 30-30 and am looking to get a .223 with probably an 18.5 inch barrel. Costs 75c a round. When it comes to firearms, there are few that could truly be considered a piece of Americana quite like a lever action chambered in .30-30. The .45-70 from 50 yards. So, my trimester bonus pays out next week, and I'm pretty set on getting an old lever gun to add to the collection. After 500 yards, a 300 grain bullet can drop several feet, while rounds like the 30-06 or 7mm will drop only a handful of inches. The .444 shoots much flatter than most folks realize. Posts must be somewhat related to firearms and must comply with the Global Reddit Rules. P.S. Another scenario: In college I was cowboying for a ranch in Texas, and the rancher had a 30-30 alongside the seat in every ranch truck to shoot wild dogs and coyotes that chased his cattle. The.30-30 has a muzzle energy of 1,902 ft-lbs; after 200 yards, that drops to 947 ft-lbs. Buffalo and elephant aside, the .45-70 Govt is a wonderfully capable rifle for hunting virtually any species of big game in the world. The lever action makes the experience. With its higher velocity and better trajectory, shooting a 308 ammo would still be accurate at 400 yards than the 30-30, which most likely performs better at about 200 yards. 30-30 lever actions (mostly the older Marlins) have probably taken more deer than any other gun. The performance of 30-30 vs 308 in the short-range shooting is almost the same. Lever actions are just such a part of American firearm history, and as someone who likes to collect historical rifles, I've decided I NEED one. 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