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The Winchester M73 was first chambered in .38-40 in 1880 with the same chambering following in the Colt SAA in the mid-1880s. Cartridge Type: Height: 1.305" Width: 0.525" Average FPS: 1160 Average Energy: 538 Average Gr: 180 Recoil: 0.95 *Casing image above is an artist rendering and not a real photo of .38-40 Winchester Ballistics cartridge. You can also find .38-40 Colt & .44-40 Colt headstamps as well as .38 Marlin and .44 Marlin. At first called the .38 WCF, the new load was Winchesterâs way of offering a faster, flatter shooting cartridge than the .44-40. 38 WCF | 38-40 caliber by Mike Venturino, Tue, May 07, 2013. Why Winchester named it .38 is a mystery. That is not what I am going to use them for but I got the ammo to crono when I started working with them which I haven't done yet. .44-40 loads is the copy of the Browning-designed Winchester Model 1892. But, when used within the close ranges for which it was intended, and when the shot is placed where it needs to be, that old cartridge will, with certainty, still provide the venison. Much quieter than my 20" Rossi .357. I am looking for opinions from people who have reloaded both .38-40 and .44-40 ammo. The 44-40 round is legal to use on deer in NH as is the 38-40 I beleive and last summer I purchased a box each of Winchester ammo they spec for deer. My .38-40, which is pretty close to a .44-40, is darned quiet from a 24" 1873. I figured that since I had already mastered reloading the 32-20, the 44-40 should be ⦠The .44-40 is a historic cartridge whose heyday was from about 1873 until the mid-1890s when the higher-velocity, flatter-shooting, smokeless powder cartridges were introduced. The Winchester Models 53 (1924) and 65 (1933) were relabeled Model 1892s. There are so many myths out there about the 44-40 being a hard cartridge to handload. I think that we as a people are obsessed with more, bigger, better. Test barrel length: 4 in (vented) ¹ / 6 in ² Source(s): Federal Cartridge Co. Remington Arms Co. There was only 12 feet per second difference. In popularity, the .44-40 was second only to the .45 Colt in chamberings of the Colt Single Action followed by the .38-40 (.38WCF) and .32-20 (.32WCF), both of which ⦠By 500 yards it has dropped a massive 753 inches (over 60 feet). This is excellent ammo. Of all the long and handgun calibers it was the most popular. A little measuring spotlighted the problem. Makes sense, especially since the "in-house" 180 gr JHP design was probably being developed at the same time. Maybe you just like to go out on a weekend and shoot the âGuns that Won the Westâ or that your favorite TV and movie cowboy heroes toted. mainmech48 , Apr 19, 2005 I can assure you, a 44-40 looks a lot more like a 45 Colt than 38-40 does. It was mechanically in very good condition, however it would not shoot worth a proverbial hoot. The .44-40 Winchester rounds shoot flat out to 120 yards with a typical bullet grain of 200gr. I know because I used to have one each of all four in my collection. I have since bought a Uberti Colt clone in 38-40 that has all the critical dimensions correct. While it is often overlooked by more modern loads, if youâre interested in owning, displaying, and shooting a piece of American history, a Henry Original H011 in .44-40 is the one to bring home. The cartridge was introduced by Winchester in 1874 and is derived from their .44-40 Winchester.This cartridge was introduced for rifles, but in its reintroduction for Cowboy Action Shooting it has seen some popularity as a revolver cartridge. ----- Reloading the 44-40 . While we have went to great lengths to make sure that it's as accurate as possible this rendering should not be used to generate specs for casings. The .44-40 Winchester or .44 WCF (Winchester Center Fire) was designed in 1873 by Winchester Repeating Arms Company. Regarding firearms, just this past Saturday, I was fondling a immaculate, Colt Baby Lightning rifle chambered in (according to the barrel markings) .44-40 Colt. In handgun barrels velocities were around 950fps. The 38-40 and 44-40 were the primary calibers available along with Henrys and 1866 Yellow Boy Winchesters in 44 Henry. You cannot tell if a bullet was shot from a rifle or pistol, there was no rifle caliber differences in the 1873 Winchester. The .44-40 Winchester cartridge is undeniably one of the calibers that created America. Extra steps are added as cases must first be lightly lubed, then sized, then wiped clean, before expanding, priming and reloading. I called Buffalo Arms. It is actually .40 caliber using .400 inch bullets. Maybe youâre involved with formal, sanctioning organizations for Cowboy Action shooting. As far as techniques and discipline are concerned I think that they have declined. The chambering was .44-40 and the finish was patina. In their original BP loadings the .44/40, .38/40 (and .45 Colt) were the Magnums of their day. In 1873 Winchester introduced a stronger steel framed lever action rifle in three new centerfire chamberings, the .32-20, .38-40 and the most famous of all - the .44-40. If I had known what I know now, I would have bought one in 44-40 instead of the Ruger. At 200 yards the round has dropped around 62 inches (5 feet). The .38-40, being a bottle-necked cartridge as are the .32-20 and .44-40, is not as easy to reload as standard straight-walled sixgun cartridges such as the .44 Magnum or .45 Colt. Left to right in this photo, 45 Colt, 44-40, 38-40. It took two more shots to finish the job. Forcing cone is cut for BP, and it probably has a tight chamber...and probably bores .424-.427....lean to getting the 38-40 because the 44-40 may be limited to certain load combinations. They do however share the same case. The model 1873 .44-40 caliber rifle fired a 200 grain lead bullet at around 1250fps from a barrel length of 20 to 24â. Their .38/40 load uses at 175 gr LFP with 32 to 33 gr of lightly compressed 3F BP. The 38-40 was available and while a capable round never caught on like its bigger brother, the 44-40. I once witnessed a "primitive weapons" hunter shoot a deer at 100 yards with a .38-40 in an old lever action rifle, and the bullet struck the shoulder but failed to penetrate further. The Winchester 44-40 has plenty of power to take most four-legged animals in the lower 48 States with the exception of a big brown bear. Wide Parameters. It is an original 73 chambered in 44-40. Anemic, they were not - especially from a '73. The Winchester 44-40 power point ammo averaged 1,433 feet per second at the muzzle. An open sighted rifle is a short range weapon, not more than 100 yds and you really need to know the ballistics of the cartridge. Shooting and discussing the classic Winchester Model 92 chambered in .44-40. From the heavy Winchester recoil is almost non existent. The 45 Colt never made a successful transition to rifles. Iâve read the 38-40 is more rare, but probably not as âsexyâ as the well known and fabled 44-40. I have heard that Winchester used factory .400" 180 gr JSPs intended for the .38/40 in the initial load development for the .40 S&W. Just looking at the shapes I think the .38-40 might be more problematic because ⦠Admiral Robert E. Peary carried an 1892 on his trips to the North Pole , [3] and Secretary of War Patrick Hurley was presented with the one millionth rifle on December 13, 1932. The .38-40 isnât really a .38 caliber but actually a .40 (.400-.401-diameter bullets)! I own and shoot a 38-40 and a 32-40 Winchester. The .38-40 Winchester is actually a .40 caliber cartridge shooting .401 caliber bullets. All my 44-40 ammo gets stored in blue plastic boxes, all my 45 Colt ammo goes in gray boxes. Iâm looking for a 1873 carbine, Does anyone know of the production numbers of the two calibers 44-40 vs 38-40 ) in comparison ? The .44-40 Winchester, also known as .44 Winchester, .44 WCF (Winchester Center Fire), and .44 Largo (in Spanish-speaking countries) was introduced in 1873 by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company.It was the first metallic centerfire cartridge manufactured by Winchester, and was promoted as the standard chambering for the new Winchester Model 1873 rifle. Rifles in .44-40 proved to be most popular, far outstripping sales of the other chamberings. A favorite among frontiersmen, cowboys, and 19th-century hunters, the .44-40 is the cartridge that won the West. The first thing one must know when becoming acquainted with the .38 WCF/.38-40 is that itâs nowhere near .38 caliber. I made this loading block up when I first started shooting CAS. I have read that these two cartridges can be difficult because of thin brass walls. 30-06 vs 44-40 04-10-2018, 08:14 AM. Cowboy Action. Here is the deal. Winchester introduced the 38-40 Winchester Center Fire, or WCF, in 1874 as a companion to the popular 44-40 WCF. I have and said he has a 44/40 rifle, and thought it would be okay to shoot the 38/40 in his 44/40, and he would keep the brass as he is going to buy a 38/40. The parent case is a .44 Henry and the .44 WCF has a ⦠I would not sell them to him and he kind of got mad, but I told him if I sold them to him why not keep the loaded rounds till he got the 38/40 rifle, and he said there was not that much difference in the two rounds. 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